Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Now imagine a world where creativity isn't just a hobby, but a powerful tool for transforming your behavioral health. What if solving problems creatively could unlock new levels of resilience and freedom in your life? Now, the National Institute of Health reports that 57.8 million adults live with some form of traumatic experience that has not been addressed and is affecting their overall well being.
My guest, Doctor Neil de Perez, is CEO of Behavioral Health Reimagine with over 25 years of experience in the behavioral health field and has a doctorate in strategic leadership focused on strategic foresight. Now, she is passionate about helping people overcome challenges, live a life of freedom and fulfillment.
Join us as we explore groundbreaking strategies to elevate your well being and your life, guided by a true expert in the field.
Let's go.
[00:00:58] Speaker B: Why not you listen, we already, we already. Emotion. We already. Emotion. That's.
[00:01:03] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly.
[00:01:06] Speaker A: Just, just pure, authentic communication and sharing from the heart about God.
[00:01:10] Speaker B: And ladies and gentlemen, here we are. I got, I have Doctor Nelda Perez.
[00:01:17] Speaker A: On the set with me today. You guys are truly going to be blessed by her because just her story, her background, just with.
Oh, my goodness.
Behavioral health care and leader and with 25 years plus experience, and she's all about innovative strategies, helping people overcome these, these breakthroughs and get to a place where God can really use them.
[00:01:48] Speaker B: We've had such incredible dialogue. I was like, I don't want to leave anything out, but it just comes from the heart.
[00:01:54] Speaker A: And you guys are about to experience what she has to offer because she's a truth and she's speaking from the heart.
Not only is she what we call strategic leadership focused on strategic foresight, but she's also forecasting scenarios and anticipating trends to actually help people optimize their health and get them from a place where they can actually live independently and not so much lean on her. But I just want to welcome doctor Nel Perez to why not you?
[00:02:29] Speaker B: Thank you for being on.
[00:02:31] Speaker C: Hi, how are you? I'm so excited to be here. Like you said, derek, like, we've already had such amazing dialogue. It's been, you know, even just in the pre, you know, podcast, it's been just so fascinating. So I'm excited to be here.
[00:02:47] Speaker B: I'm glad you're here, too. I'm glad you're here because, I mean.
[00:02:52] Speaker A: Just when we, when we, when we talk, it's just, it's from the heart and we're talking about God and we're talking about delivering people and helping them become the best person they could be. And I know that you've actually, you spoke, um, are, you know, you talked briefly about EMDR and how, and how that's like a method to actually help people focus on those triggers and those traumas in a specific way to actually help them confront what it is that they're dealing with. And it was fascinating. Can you, can you, like, can you go into that a little bit more.
[00:03:27] Speaker B: And just kind of share the process about that?
[00:03:31] Speaker C: Sure. So EMDR is desensitization. So basically, it's basically taking, you're actually working with your brain. But rather than talk therapy, which has its place, and it's been very successful, what I've learned is that it's a whole different time right now. People are different. Stressors are different, traumas are different, and they accumulate, and there are big traumas that we've had in our lives, and those are all very notable. And then there are the everyday little traumas, Covid and the economy and the political upheaval and the societal upheaval. And all of this stuff, it bottlenecks. And then you live in a state of anxiety, in a state of fear. And this fear just becomes, it just grows in it. It becomes so overwhelming. And what EMDR does is that it takes that information, and your brain actually heals itself. It's a process.
It's a whole process that we do while the brain is healing itself. And it's able to bring people to that healing place of all of these things and being able to manage the everyday life without feeling so stressed and overcome with anxiety and depression and all of that. The root of it is fear.
[00:05:17] Speaker A: Wow.
When you say a bottleneck, I don't know why, for whatever reason, I just got to a point, like, when you're actually, it's almost like a sifter where you just kind of get to, like, this narrowing point in your life, and they're just like, real confined. And I was like, man, how many people actually feel like they're just being pressed? They're being pressed because of uncertainty. No clarity.
You want to do things. And when you say, Covid, everybody's in isolation time at that point, it's like you can't. They don't want you to do anything.
I know there's some kind of backlash to that because, you know, here you are once being able to just kind of do whatever you wanted to do. There was some freedom, and now all of a sudden, you're confined and you're limited. It's like now you're chained.
[00:06:12] Speaker C: To take that a step further, human beings are made for connection. We are made to have interaction when we don't have that, which is what happened during that pandemic, is that people, you suffer. It's almost like interaction, and human interaction is as important to a human being as water is.
We need water to survive. We can survive quite some time without food. We can't survive without water. Human interaction has almost that same, socially and emotionally has that same connection. So when we don't have that, which is what happened in the pandemic, like, even your own family, you were, like, estranged from, not because you were upset with them, because either you didn't want to get them sick or you didn't want them to get you sick, culminated with fear. So when, right, so the social supports that you have were no longer there. That just threw everybody, you know, off. You know, just threw everybody off. And that was a big. That was a big one. And the thing is that since then, it's been a series of traumas that have not really subsided. It's been like, it's almost like a tumbleweed, and it just. It's the next thing, and the next thing and the next thing. Cause we were in the middle of a pandemic, right, when. When the racial thing came up. And then, so then that's societies and people against one another. And so you're in isolation. You come out of isolation so that, into this upheaval of anger and, you know, so it's. We're angry at, you know, at other races. I remember I had some Asians in my caseload, and they were like, I'm afraid to go out, even though I need to go out to get food, but I'm afraid to go out. I'm afraid to, even if I have somebody bring the food, I'm afraid to, like, open the door because I don't know who's on the other side. That's how fearful they live. So there was all of this going on. So let's picture this. We're still a pandemic fearing for our lives in isolation, and we're afraid to even open the door because we don't know what's going to happen on the other side of that door.
If that's not a stressor in and of itself, I don't know what it is.
[00:08:41] Speaker B: That's a huge stress. That's a huge stress. I couldn't imagine right there not wanting.
[00:08:46] Speaker A: To open the door because I'm afraid of, like, who might be on the other side.
[00:08:50] Speaker C: Who might be on the other side. Will they be attacking me?
[00:08:53] Speaker A: Right.
[00:08:54] Speaker C: You know, it's not my fault that I'm whatever ethnicity I am, but, you know, who knows? Like, this is. This is the time that we were living in, and it has not really changed much.
[00:09:09] Speaker A: It has.
[00:09:10] Speaker C: On top of that have come other things, you know?
[00:09:12] Speaker A: Right.
[00:09:13] Speaker C: So, yeah, yeah.
[00:09:15] Speaker A: Things are constantly compiling on one another, and it's like then you have social media and just the media in general antagonizing everybody just with their thoughts and perceptions. And I. And now it's confusing people even more to, like, what do I believe or how do I interpret this?
[00:09:31] Speaker C: Yeah, right.
Divisions in families because they have different political views for whatever their reason is. You know, it's not one side or the other doesn't. But, you know, and so you can imagine as a therapist, I'm like, yeah, but that's your mom, that's your dad. Like, are you kidding me? This is your family. Hasn't this always been your support and you're upset with them and you're not going to talk to them. So do you see how this just continues to it just one thing after the other continues and all of these are traumas that continue to build up and, yeah, we need to have different methodologies. We need to become innovative and creative on. How are we going to address this? Because these are things we never dealt with before historically, never dealt with this many issues at once. Maybe one thing at a time. I remember 911, it was just about that that brought people together because it was one thing and we all had, like, a common bond, but now it's like isolation, division all. And it's just all in one. And it's come down to the most, even within a home.
[00:10:49] Speaker A: Right.
[00:10:51] Speaker C: And I is just not the way it's supposed to be.
[00:10:55] Speaker A: Isn't that.
[00:10:55] Speaker C: And so these are the things that we have to deal with as clinicians to be able to help people heal. So that, you know, one of the things that I say to some of my clients, we need to sometimes respectfully agree to disagree. But I said, but here's the thing. I know you may not be pleased that I don't agree with you, but here's the thing. You don't agree with me either. So should I hate you for that?
[00:11:20] Speaker B: Right?
[00:11:20] Speaker C: And. And it just gives them food for thought. And they're like, hey, you know, yeah, you've got a point there.
[00:11:25] Speaker B: You do.
[00:11:27] Speaker C: Yeah. So. So how can I. How can I be creative in still keeping this person engaged? Even though there were air? There are things or areas that we may not necessarily agree, but they still need healing.
[00:11:41] Speaker A: They do.
[00:11:42] Speaker C: And I still have that key. I can still help them through that process, you know? Right. And it's not about my point versus their point, because that's not, as a clinician, that's not my job to agree or disagree, but they know that I may have a different view for whatever reason. And so they're like, I know you don't agree with me, and I'm like, yeah, but that's. That's not even the point here.
[00:12:05] Speaker A: Right.
[00:12:06] Speaker C: Let me help you through this process. So it's. It's. There's a lot of that. Um, the other thing is, Derek, that people don't want to be in therapy forever.
I remember one time that that was, like, the fashion. Right, right. I'm in therapy. Everybody had a therapist. People don't want to be in therapy. They want to be able to manage their own lives.
[00:12:26] Speaker D: They do.
[00:12:27] Speaker C: And giving them the tools to do it is part of what I do. So I've become very creative in giving them that, being their therapist when necessary, being their coach when necessary, being able to be interchangeable so that I can help them through their process of healing. So it's like, I have this whole kit of tools, and what am I going to use at this time with this person? What do they need most? How can I help them best?
And then giving them those tools so that they can proceed forward without me, because that's always the goal.
[00:13:10] Speaker A: Right. So what actually got you, like, on this path to wanting to help people? Like, what was going on in your life and who actually helped you overcome those things to be like, okay, you know what? I'm about to do this, so.
[00:13:26] Speaker C: Okay, so a little bit about my background. So I was actually, I was an administrative assistant, and. Oh, really good one, too, because I'm very organized, and I was like, really? My.
She was a doctor, actually. She absolutely adored me because she was like, oh, my goodness, you have everything on point. You're so organized. Like, I come to you and you're like, oh, what do you need? Oh, here you go. You know? So it was like that, but then she saw beyond that, and she saw me engage with people on the phone, so she decided, you know what? I'm pulling you out of this position as much as I need you here, because I really believe that you'll be very good with interacting with people. And at this point, it was this program called prop.
It was for pregnant. For women that kept losing their pregnancy. They came up with this new invention that was very innovative at that time, and it was a saclodge so that they can keep the baby. They can hold the baby up to 36 weeks, and then they would remove it. And then if they had the baby, they would still have a healthy baby. So they were like, you would be so good, you know, as the intake person, because you're so good with people. And I kept saying, oh, I don't want to do that. I'm not really. I'm not that good at that, and I don't think I can do it. And. But that opened the doors. When my hostage is funny, she said, okay, so this is what we're going to do. I know you're being very resistant. I want you to do this for three months. And if in three months you still don't like it, yeah. I pull you back and you'll, you know, you'll do what you were doing again. Well, five months later, she comes to me, she goes, oh, yeah, we missed that three month mark. How are you doing with this? Do you still want to be pulled out? I was like, no, actually, I want to go to school for this. I want to be a therapist.
And I was a case worker at the time, and that was what catapulted me, and I loved it ever since I've been in clinical work for over 25 years and I love it.
[00:15:36] Speaker A: And how amazing is that, that you actually had somebody that was.
That saw your potential and they didn't want to keep you stymied, like, in this position? They were like, you know what? No, that has so much potential. She's good with people. She's actually helping them elevate.
[00:15:53] Speaker B: Let's try this out and give it a go.
[00:15:57] Speaker A: Not too many people are. I mean, that's a good leader to me.
[00:16:00] Speaker C: Yes, yes, yes. I learned a lot of my leaders, my leadership skills through that. She was. She was an amazing leader. She was a servant leader. If she needed to get in there with you to do the work, she would. There were deadlines that needed to be met, and she wasn't sitting in her office filing her nails. She was like, let's do this. Rolled up her sleeves. And if we were there till three in the morning, she was there till 330 in the morning. Like, she was that type of leader and which motivated the team to be so much better. And all of us have gone on to do amazing things as a result of that leadership style. That's good, you know?
[00:16:44] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:16:44] Speaker C: And, and. And seeing my potential when I didn't see it, she saw my potential and saw where my gifting was, and I didn't see it. I had no idea. And she saw my gifting and said, we're going to capitalize that and we're going to make that work. So very interesting. And it was fantastic. And I'll tell you, since then, it's been amazing. I've loved what I do. I enjoy it.
I've perfected it. I've made changes.
I started, I had a lot of leadership roles throughout my career, and I want to say, 18 years ago, I decided to go on my own. The best thing I ever did. And I've been in practice for myself, and then I went for my doctorate in leadership and strategic foresight, which is innovation. And I've applied that to what I do.
[00:17:41] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:17:43] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:17:45] Speaker A: Look, there's no finish line. I believe when it comes to learning and doing anything for God, you just, you just keep it going. You keep it going.
[00:17:55] Speaker C: Yeah. There's no retirement.
[00:17:56] Speaker B: No, there isn't.
[00:17:58] Speaker C: No retirement. No. No. If you're doing Derek, if you're doing what you're supposed to do, you will be more creative and will come up with better, sharper ways to do what you do.
But for that, you need to really be honed in and you really have to be doing the work. You know what happens in this. I saw statistics years ago that usually people never pick up a book after college, and so they're not interested in learning anymore. And unless the job, like, forces them to learn new things, they have no appetite for learning new things. And my drive is learning new things. New things, new ways of doing it. Becoming more invested in different areas of my business. And again, to be able to merge innovation with therapy has been amazing. It's been amazing because it's taught me how to think. So outside of the box.
[00:19:10] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:19:11] Speaker C: And to go beyond that, when I decided that I was going to start my practice, let's be honest, everybody has a practice, whether it's big or small or everybody. So I had this visual, and my visual was okay. So if there is a whole. I lived in New York City, in New York at the time, not New York City, but New York. And I said, if there's this whole New York City block with all therapists, why would people walk to the end of that block, to the left, over to me? I need to be different. I need to offer something and nobody else offers. So that became my mission.
[00:19:52] Speaker A: That's huge right there.
[00:19:54] Speaker B: That's huge.
[00:19:55] Speaker C: That, that became my mission. And I just honed in on that, and I was like, there's got to be a different way. There's got to be a better way.
They need for them to come to me. It's my responsibility to offer them something that's irresistible.
[00:20:13] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:20:15] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:20:15] Speaker A: Wow.
And that's that.
[00:20:18] Speaker B: Foresight, being innovative and creative, your journey.
[00:20:22] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:20:23] Speaker A: Oh, my goodness.
[00:20:24] Speaker C: Right? And then years later, well, not a few years later, I went back to school, and then I got my doctorate in this innovation because I was like, yeah, this is what I'm supposed to do. Which was even. That was a. I was not intentional. Me going for this program was not intent. Was totally a God thing. Yeah, totally.
[00:20:47] Speaker A: Yeah, I believe it. You know, when you just. When you're. When you're talking and you're sharing, it just. It took me back to a place when I was going through this. This one class, I think it was a muslim class when I was going through my master's program at Fuller, and I during this class, I end up having to interview different cultures, and so I end up choosing to interview these muslim students. One was a college freshman. No, I think she was a sophomore in college. One had graduated. Another one was a high school. And I had to go through this organization, and they chose the students that I would actually talk to.
And it was interesting to me because during that time of when I. When I was talking with them, I realized, even though we're all different, we still want the same thing. We want. We want peace. We want connection.
We want to. We want to pursue our dreams. And so one of the young ladies that I was talking with, she said, you know, she wanted to go into directing, movie directing and doing documentaries to show people what muslim community is really about.
And I was like, so who is somebody that you actually look up to? And she said, avery Duvernay. And I was totally expecting her to say somebody completely different other than Ava Duvernay, who's an african american woman who's doing these documentaries. But I understood the fact that because she's doing something similar, even though she has a different faith base, you can always learn from somebody else.
[00:22:41] Speaker C: Absolutely.
[00:22:42] Speaker A: And I was like, this girl is.
[00:22:45] Speaker B: She's got to do it.
[00:22:48] Speaker A: I think the part that I messed up on was not staying in communication or contact with these people to actually check on their progression and to see where they are today, because I know that they're going to be doing some remarkable things and bringing that interfaith dialogue together. And so when you were talking about just walking down the street and being creative and finding something that's totally different, I was like, man, that's.
[00:23:19] Speaker C: Yeah, totally different. But a solution.
[00:23:21] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:23:22] Speaker C: To their need. So it can't be different for the sake of just being different.
[00:23:26] Speaker A: Right.
[00:23:27] Speaker C: It's like, what is their need? And how can I meet that need?
[00:23:30] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:23:31] Speaker C: And how can they do it in a different way?
[00:23:37] Speaker B: Yeah, that's, yeah, yeah.
[00:23:40] Speaker A: That is, that is so huge, because the. So, I mean, just speaking on that, here you are. Let's say you find or you've identified a need and you're like, okay, here's a solution I believe that can actually work to bridge the gap for me to actually connect with these people.
Your ideal client.
If you don't have that skill set, what can somebody, what do you believe somebody can actually do to actually help them at least go in that direction? Because not everybody's gifted. Right, in certain things. And even though you come up with some kind of solution, you're like, man, do I keep running with this, or do I pass along, pass it to somebody else who I know can actually do it? Or do I just start working on myself to actually make this happen?
[00:24:30] Speaker C: Okay. So the other part of what I do is that I help because I am so passionate about behavioral health. So I help behavioral health organizations to be able to develop a team of innovation. So I teach them how to make innovation part of the fabric of the way they just run business.
[00:24:53] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:24:54] Speaker C: And what can they bring to the table? What I get, a lot of the pushback that I get is, well, you know what? Um, like, uh. Um.
Insurance won't pay for that. Insurance won't pay for this. Insurance won't pay for that. And I'm like, okay, so why does it have to be insurance? Why can't you create something if it's that good? People will pay either extra or they will pay outright for something that they really want.
[00:25:26] Speaker A: Right.
[00:25:27] Speaker C: So, you know, because basically what you're saying is I want to be innovative, but I don't.
[00:25:33] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:25:34] Speaker C: So how can we make this team think creatively? And it has to be a team effort, because everybody has a different role within an organization. Even if that's a group, everybody has a different role. My role is CEO and running the everyday, maybe running the everyday operations. So my focus is very operational. But then I have my front lines that are actually seeing the clients and seeing that there's a change in these, in the type of clientele, the kind of problems that are coming in, the kind of. So stating time aside, to be able to be creative is critical.
I have to tell you, a behavioral health organization that doesn't do this is really wetting themselves down. Because people no longer want to. They're no longer interested in the freudian and young and the stalts. They're not interested in that. They want real life solutions to their real life problems.
[00:26:37] Speaker B: That's right.
[00:26:38] Speaker C: And we need to deliver that in a way where they can actually operate on their own. You know, what do we all want? We want to be happy and we want to be independent. Like who feels good being dependent on somebody else.
[00:26:51] Speaker A: Right.
[00:26:52] Speaker C: And so it's shifting the mindset of a group or an organization so that they can be that creative person, that they could have a whole environment of creativity. You know, one of the things that I learned, and my sisters and I were, the three of us are exactly the same, we think, in systems.
So I'm doing this new project. Wow, this is hard. There has to be a better way. Wait a minute. What if I do this, this and this? What if I do that, that and that? And if I do it in a certain way now it's going to be seamless because now this is going to be easy. Innovation is that creativity, to think about ways and systems and things that you can put in place. And here's the thing that are unique to your organization.
[00:27:40] Speaker B: That's right.
[00:27:40] Speaker C: That it may be something they can't get anywhere else. They. That's why they go to you.
[00:27:44] Speaker A: Right.
[00:27:44] Speaker C: That's why they go to you at the end of the block on the left. See, because you offer this and you do it in a way that nobody else does it, and so you become the go to.
[00:27:56] Speaker A: That's right.
[00:27:57] Speaker C: Do you see?
[00:27:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:58] Speaker C: So, so that's how I teach them to think from the, from every, every aspect, from the person that's receiving them, the receptionist that's receiving them at the door to the therapist that's seeing them, to the system of how to operate. You know, payment. Everything has to be creative. Every part has to be creative, because if it isn't, that's where there's a problem, that's where there's the bottleneck, that's where there's issues and, and just frustration, you know? And that's why so many organizations are so dependent on insurance, which is getting worse by the day. They decide when and if they're going to pay you because you're not their client.
[00:28:45] Speaker A: Right.
[00:28:45] Speaker C: You are not their client. The client is their client. Your client is their client. So they want to please them, and they couldn't care less about you. So how can I be independent and how can I make this client need and want me?
[00:28:59] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:29:00] Speaker C: How can I be creative. So because I've done that for so many years, I teach that. Yeah, I teach. I teach organizations like, hey, let's come up with a plan. What are your gifts? What are the things that you guys do super well? And, you know, oftentimes when you first go, they're like. Like a deer in headline in headlights. They're like, oh, I don't know. We just. We just do therapy, man. Nobody. Just because you bring your personality, you bring your knowledge, you bring your background, all of this, like, who are you? Who is every single one of these individuals? And how can we create something with your gifts that's going to make this organization stand out?
[00:29:39] Speaker A: That's right.
[00:29:39] Speaker C: And then we start working from there, and then what are the trends? That's where my foresight comes in. What are the trends that are either up and coming, or what are the trends that we can actually create to make business easier?
[00:29:55] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:29:56] Speaker C: So let me tell you this quick story. So when I started my organization, I had a couple of doctors.
They were fellows. So there were new doctors. They were probably in the field, like, a year or two. And then I had a CPA, and I had a nurse practitioner who wanted to go off on her own, or one other person. I had also an executive.
And the problem with these new therapists were, I mean, these new doctors was when they would come to the office, they were falling asleep. They had done, like, 36 hours, and they were exhausted, and they would be falling asleep. And I was like, okay, so this is not gonna work. They need it. They needed the therapy, but they couldn't even stay up through the whole process.
So I was like, okay, so this is this problem. Now, the other problem that I saw was the CPA. CPA's biggest stressor was like, I'm 57 years old. It was 2008. I've lost my job. I can't get another job because of my age, but I still have a mortgage, and I still have kids in college. What do I do? How do I. So now, that was another presenting problem. And then I had this executive, and her biggest problem was when she would go away, she would oftentimes, you know, to do her job. Oftentimes she would be with her boss. And that was a big stressor for her, being with the boss, the demands and the stress of the. Of the job.
So I said, why don't we do video?
Why don't we do the sessions via video?
[00:31:33] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:31:34] Speaker C: I told the doctors, you're off.
You have 36 hours, but you have to get a break in between there's no way you're working straight. So is there a time period there that we can have this session?
Even if we have, like, we break it up into one session, 30 minutes, another session, 30 minutes, but at least. And they were like, oh, yeah, I can do that. There we go. So there was video I got on Zoom. Zoom was new. Got on Zoom, and I said, let's create this, and let's do this. The same thing with the executive. She was away, and I was like, okay, so let's do this while you're away and while you're at the peak of your stress, not when you get back and you're better. So then there came that, and then for the CPA and the people that lost their job and the nurse practitioner, I was like, you know what? We need to switch this, and we need to also add coaching because you need to be coached. But then I was like, I know how to run my business. I don't know how to run business. I think I need to go back to school for that. I think I need to have some courses and hence my degree in strategic foresight, which is business and leadership. And I was like, to see. So I saw problems, and I was like, how do I solve these problems?
What do I have that I can solve these problems? What do I need to get? Because I may note, no, I see, I needed my, I didn't need a degree. I wanted courses. But I got bamboozled into the degree, which was good, though, but it wasn't my plan. So that's another story. And so at this point, so I came up with a plan because they were presenting problems that were real problems. Yeah, I could send them somewhere else, but why couldn't I? All I needed to do was be creative so that I could solve that problem for them.
[00:33:31] Speaker A: That's right. I. Wow.
[00:33:32] Speaker C: Do you see?
[00:33:33] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:33:35] Speaker C: And this is how we need to think. And the thing is, we are all gifted with creativity.
School and life has taught us how to do things like everybody else. I love when people tell me, oh, we're innovative, we're using the latest blah blah, blah, and I'm like, somebody else innovated that you're using it, but I'm like, okay, pure innovator.
[00:33:59] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:34:01] Speaker A: And as you were talking, and you're talking about the, the systems and the routines for these organizations, people need these same things for their own daily lives, to protect and preserve that mind of theirs. Otherwise, you never know what's going to happen. They just might get to a place where they can't handle the stress, and all of a sudden, they just begin to plummet because they don't have the tools and the methodology or the system just to even recognize, okay, I need help. Maybe I need to go in this direction, or maybe I should just leave this alone for a little while and go to a place where I could just retreat and pause for a second and take a breather.
[00:34:42] Speaker C: Right.
100%. And maybe I need to implement things in my life so that I can be able to take that breather and be able to do things. You know, right now, I'm in that transitional part in my life where I've had to put some things on pause because, you know, as Wonder Woman as I think I am, I realize that I'm not.
There is no magic. I have no cape. And real life, you know, I have, like, you know, a very ill mom.
[00:35:15] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:35:16] Speaker C: And. And my life has changed drastically in the last year and a half. So I'm like, wait, I need to stop. I need to pause. And I need to figure out what are the things that are important at this time and how can I do the things that I need to do along with the things that I want to do.
[00:35:35] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:35:36] Speaker C: So it may mean that it would be more of this and less of that, and then I need to be okay with that. And. But you see how I had to stop and be creative and think, how can I? This is happening. I have no control over that. This is happening with or without me. And I need to decide and come up with a plan to make this work, because this is where my life is at this moment.
[00:36:07] Speaker A: That's it.
[00:36:08] Speaker C: You know?
[00:36:08] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:36:09] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah.
[00:36:10] Speaker A: And so go ahead.
[00:36:13] Speaker C: Okay. Innovation is. It can be applied to anything.
[00:36:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:36:17] Speaker C: Creativity could be applied to anything. We're just not used to it.
[00:36:22] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:36:22] Speaker C: But I'll tell you, the moment that you start thinking creatively, it's crazy. The things that you come up with. It is like, my whole life, like, with the systems, I'm like, oh, my goodness. No, no, no. I need my system where I need to create a system for this. And once I create the system, it's like, I can do it in the dark. Not a problem, you know?
[00:36:46] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:36:46] Speaker C: So there's a lot to be said for being creative and coming up with no methods and systems that are going to work for you in your life.
[00:36:55] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:36:56] Speaker A: And so with that being said, I know it kind of takes me back to that EMDR, where you have these traumas or these triggers and you don't know how to navigate it and so you're always kind of, like, in this constant state of, like, fight or flight. And so I know it could be. It could be hard just for somebody to get to a place of. Just to be vulnerable and say, I need help. I need human connection, you know, because you're not going to be able to be creative if you're in these heightened states of fight or flight, because you have so much going on. Your brain and your mind is convoluted and it's overwhelmed.
How do you get somebody to that place where you're like, okay, I need to settle down. I need to move from this place to this place so I can actually be free and get some clarity in my mind so I could be creative?
[00:37:54] Speaker C: Okay, so that's. The EMDR is a part of what I do, because that's a good place to start, because right now, your. Your brain is in overwhelm. And. And a brain. The brain is a muscle. The brain doesn't know the difference. It just knows that it's in stress mode. And. And because it's in stress mode, this is, um, attacking your neural system.
So your nervous system is also on overdrive because of your brain. Okay, so all this stuff in your head, all this stuff going on in your body, and until you don't get to that place where you can actually, like, settle it and be able to deal with one thing at a time. So EMDR has these two systems that it starts with, which I think they're absolutely amazing. And I use them for myself also. So to have a container where you keep all of the mess.
[00:38:49] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:38:50] Speaker C: Not in your brain. It's in a container. Whatever that container, people have come up with, like, a little, like, jewelry box to mine is a dumpster. I had other people that have come up with, yeah, I have a lot. This is just a lot going on. Other people have an entire room, right?
Like, the biggest room in the house, and they put all their stuff in there, which is great. And then we deal with one thing at a time, and we deal with that. We sift it out. We work through that whole process. One thing, when the session is over, we put it back in the room and we bring it out until it's completely solved, and it doesn't have to go anywhere.
Then we have a safe place. Safe place can be a thing. It can be a person. It can be. It can be anything. Something that you. That gives you that peace.
And you go to your safe place, and when you feel the overwhelm, you go back to your safe place and that's where the process begins.
[00:39:54] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:39:55] Speaker C: We begin from that point, and there's just a series of other tools that we use to be able to get you to that place where you've dealt with all of the things you need to deal with. You have found, like, solutions, or, or you've processed through it. Your brain has done it, and because your brain has done it, your body automatically feels the sense of ease.
[00:40:21] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:40:22] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:40:23] Speaker C: Because they work in conjunction, you know?
[00:40:26] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:40:26] Speaker C: And, and that, that's the beauty of it. The beauty of it is that, sue, you're doing the work. And once you learn how to do this work, should another stressor arise, because it's just life. You know what you need to do.
You already have the tools to be able to go through this process and to be able to deal with it and be able to heal yourself brain to your, you know, neural system and just things. No, again, there are certain things that there's nothing we can do about it, but then we come to peace with that and understand, okay, so here's what I can do. So there's always something you can do, and here's what it can't do. So I'm not going to worry about what I can't do. Here's what I can do, and this is what I'll do.
[00:41:17] Speaker A: Right.
[00:41:18] Speaker C: But your brain process it. Nobody's telling you what to do. It's not, it's not a system where the therapist is. The therapist is there to navigate, help you navigate that, that system. It's fascinating.
[00:41:31] Speaker A: Wow. You know, one of the things I had to do because it got to a place where I felt like, wow, there's so much that I want to.
[00:41:42] Speaker B: Do right, and I know that I can't do everything right, but at the.
[00:41:46] Speaker A: Same time, I felt like my mind was just, wasn't there, like, 100%. And I just, like, I really needed to, like, go in, and what I ended up finding out or just kind of discovering was that I wasn't loving people the way I needed to love them, like, like, God loves, like, us or me, and it was more like this conditional love, and it was kind of, what are you doing? Why aren't you taking care of business? Type of stuff? And so as I'm, as I'm kind of, like, just thinking about the emotions and my thoughts, I was like, okay, where is this emotion coming from? And I would jot that down. Now, where is that emotion coming from? And I would jot that down. And basically just kind of came to me, was like, I need to take responsibility for all the decisions that I make. And it took me back to a while, why did I make this decision to lead to this outcome? And then this outcome is something that I didn't expect, but ultimately, I had to take responsibility for it, and I.
[00:43:03] Speaker B: Was like, wow, this is, this is like, this is too much. This is too much.
[00:43:08] Speaker C: The thing is, though, Derek, if you, if you delve a little deeper with Emdr, there's what they call float back and you go, where did that come from? Okay, so this, this feeling of this conditional love and not being able to love, where did this begin? When was the last time? And then it goes back, and it keeps going back to when was the first time that you felt that love needed to be conditional? Now, that may have been something that not, somebody didn't necessarily do it, too, but it's how it made you feel. And from that point on, you thought that, and this is what has repeated. You thought that it had to be conditional. You thought that you had to perform because that's something that you felt that you needed to do. And so that's gonna be a requirement for everybody in your life.
[00:43:57] Speaker B: Right.
[00:43:58] Speaker C: You see? See how fascinating that is? So you go back and you go, you know, well, okay, so the time before that, that I felt that was when this happened. Oh, the time before that was. And you keep floating back so you can't remember it anymore. Like, okay, so the last time it happened, I was eight. Or the last time I happened, it was. I was three. I can't remember beyond that. And, um. But then, but it gives you a narrative, and you're developing your brain because nobody knows your brain.
[00:44:26] Speaker B: Right.
[00:44:26] Speaker C: Your brain is bringing it all back, and it's showing you, like, this is where this comes from.
[00:44:32] Speaker A: Right.
[00:44:33] Speaker C: I get it now.
Isn't it crazy? It's amazing. It's amazing.
[00:44:40] Speaker B: It is.
[00:44:40] Speaker C: So you're understanding where this comes from, and then you're understanding. I, like, see, because, you know, it's not rational. Like, you know. Yeah, that's, that's a lot to put expectation, but you don't know how not to because you don't even know where it came from.
[00:44:58] Speaker A: Right.
[00:45:01] Speaker C: Fascinating.
[00:45:02] Speaker B: The mind. Oh, my goodness.
[00:45:05] Speaker C: Mm hmm. So then once you heal, then, you know, some people are. That's enough for them. But other people choose to go further and to be able to do, you know, look at other things in their lives and get coached and have, you know, let's say they want to start a business or they want to know, because all of that, like, mess is out of the way now. They're ready to do the work, to reach the goals that they want. But limiting beliefs they're never going to reach, they're never going to get there until this part of them is not healed.
[00:45:39] Speaker A: That's right.
[00:45:41] Speaker C: You know?
[00:45:41] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:45:42] Speaker A: I discovered that also because I had.
I was doing these. These positive affirmations, and I was like, why isn't anything, like, really changing? And it was like, well, part of me really didn't believe because I had all this other stuff going on, and it's like this past track record. And so having this affirmation, really, then, even though it sound good and everything, what I believed about myself wasn't really true, and it conflicted with what God thought of me, but at the same time, it's how I actually thought. And so things just for manifesting the way they need it, right.
[00:46:23] Speaker B: That could be huge.
[00:46:25] Speaker C: Yeah, it can be huge. You know, oftentimes we get in our own way. And that's why, I'll be honest, I'm not really big on the whole affirmation thing because, you know, you have to have the self confidence, the self esteem, or you start, like, you know, quoting affirmations. If you feel, like, overwhelmed, you feel crappy about yourself, you. You know, like you said, you don't love others, you don't have good relationships. You can say, I'm gonna have a good day, or I'm gonna, you know, all you want, all this, the chance in the world are not gonna get you there. You need to heal from within and from deep, and then you can start the next process, you know? And I'll tell you it. I find the whole, um, therapy to be fascinating. And I find for me, the more creative I am.
[00:47:21] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:47:21] Speaker C: The more I enjoy it, the better I am as a clinician. And I don't believe in long term. You don't need to be with me for the rest of your life. Yeah, but definitely until you heal, and then you can decide, like, okay, so now I'm ready for something else, so you can be like, I'm good, and that's okay, you know? Um, but either way, it's not forever, you know?
You know? You know, send me a birthday card, send me a Christmas card. But we don't need to, you know, you don't need to see me every week for the rest of your life. Let's just make this this. Let's get you over this. Let's give you tools. I just believe so strongly in giving people tools.
[00:48:01] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:48:01] Speaker C: Because it's with the tools that they'd be able. They'll be able to get to the other side. Until then, yeah, it's hard. It just. It won't happen, you know?
[00:48:14] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:48:16] Speaker A: And I. And I know you just mentioned, like, just being creative, and, you know, a lot of times when I'm just like, it could be a book that I'm reading, it could be scripture that I'm reading, and all of a sudden, it's like, boom, I get this idea, I get this download, or I feel God is like, okay, you just need to stop here and just meditate on these couple words right here.
[00:48:42] Speaker B: And then that's when I started getting, like, these downloads. What are some of the ways that.
[00:48:46] Speaker A: You actually get, like, this, this creative initiative or these downloads for yourself?
[00:48:53] Speaker C: Pretty much the same way for me. Is that starting my day with meditation and prayer? Yeah, prayer is very important for me.
You know, I do Bible study, and those are the things that get me through. I need that so that I can have. It's almost like you can't. You can't give if you have nothing to give.
[00:49:17] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:49:17] Speaker C: So you need to replenish so that you can give. So I consider that, like, my oxygen tank, you know, like they always say, you get on the plane, they're like, if you have a child or a loved one, you put the mask on yourself, and then you. Then you help them. If I don't have that mask on, there's no way I can help them. And so that's where I get my strength, that's where my oxygen comes in, and I just find that's what helps me. And so then I'm better for what I do. And I have to tell you, oftentimes, and I've seen this, like, time and time again with my clients, I also do supervision for the therapist, and I can be, like, on one track, and all of a sudden an idea comes up, and I'm like, hey, look, we need to, like, pivot here. We have to do this because this is. And I'll come up with an idea or thought or something that's, like, on point, and I really believe that that's divine intervention. That's definitely not something that I would have thought of. As a matter of fact, I'm like, well, wow, I was pretty good. It wasn't me.
It wasn't me, but I was pretty good. And that's where that comes from. That's where that comes from. It comes from my connection. The more spiritually connected I am, the better I am for my clients. The better I am to be able to help people get through their stuff. There's a lot of times in this business a lot of people have burnout because you start carrying their burdens.
And I've never had that.
I've never had that because it's never been something that I need to worry about. I've always been able to do it because of my spiritual connection, my time with God, my meditation, my prayer time has been what has helped me be better as a clinician.
[00:51:15] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:51:16] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:51:17] Speaker A: So what has been, like, a challenge of yours that you end up having to overcome where you actually just really needed to rely on God in order to overcome it?
[00:51:31] Speaker C: Wow. That's a loaded question. So for me, it's, um, it's been like, trying to, like, hold all of the components of my business. Yeah, I'm very driven. I'm very.
I can be on, like, 24/7 I'm like the.
What is the energizer, buddy? I can just go and go and go. But, like, just to have to, like, stop sometimes and say, I'm taking a day off. I'm taking time off. I don't even want to think.
[00:52:07] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:52:08] Speaker C: And because it's funny, like, when I'm resting, my mind is going.
And that has been a challenge for me. You know, I always say to my friends of the faith, I said, the biggest problem God has with me is that I've got it.
[00:52:23] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:52:24] Speaker C: He's like, no, honey, no, you don't. And I'm. No, no, I can do it on my own. He's like, alrighty then, you know, go for it. And then I mess up and he's like, there you go. You ready for me to handle it? Because I'm driven like that. And it's so, to have to be able to stop sometimes and say, I'm doing nothing is difficult. It can be difficult.
[00:52:49] Speaker A: That is tough. Because if we went to Greece, was it, we just got back, was it this past Sunday?
And I was like, this is about to be something special.
And I was like, I was thinking about, okay, what do I need to.
[00:53:10] Speaker B: Do, though, for, like, for. Why not? You like the YouTube and should I.
[00:53:16] Speaker A: Be doing some kind of post? And I was like, you know what?
I'm just going to settle down and not think about it and just have, like, this place and just be present in a moment. And it. It took me a couple days to actually get to that place, but then once I was actually able to get there, I was like, okay, this with, this is what life is all about now I'm in tune and connected with the friends and family.
[00:53:44] Speaker B: But I get it, because as soon as we landed and we were in route, here I am on my computer just doing stuff. Like, I couldn't wait. I couldn't wait to.
[00:53:54] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. But you know what? Like, you know, um. Like, even God rested on the 7th day.
[00:54:00] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:54:01] Speaker C: He rested like we're supposed to rest.
[00:54:03] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:54:04] Speaker C: That's where I have. That's a big challenge for me. Doing stuff is never a challenge. And I always, you know, it's funny. Um, one of the things I always say, well, I can do it. But you've never done that before. Yeah, I know, but I can do it. I can do it. I'll. I can do it. You know, um, I picked up kit, I picked up cooking. I'm, like, the best. I'm sorry, but I'm the best cook. I never cooked in my life. I started cooking. My friend said, only my best friend, only you could, like, learn how to cook yesterday. So today you're a chef with your own show, you know, so I started laughing. I'm like, you know, it's just, it's my drive. It's my drive. But having to stop sometimes is difficult, but it's necessary.
I am very aware that it's very necessary. And you need to take those breathers and you do need to stop. Not just for you, for you, for your clients, for your work.
You have to, you just need to take a breather and take that time off, even if it's a half day, and literally do nothing.
Do nothing. Read a book, do nothing. You know, not thinking is tough for me because my brain is always. Yeah, but, yeah, yeah, wow.
[00:55:16] Speaker B: That is, that.
[00:55:17] Speaker A: I mean, yeah, just some, just one of those things that when you, when you feel like you've, you've, you have so much energy, you've, you know what your vision is, your purpose is you just want to go. Because I just, like, for me, I think once I actually, once I turned 50, I think things just kind of shifted for me. Cause I was like, okay, you know what? You don't have much time and you need to get yourself together and you need to do what God has called you to do, and you need to figure it out quickly, otherwise times are gonna pass you by. You're gonna have so many regrets. And that's one of the things that I do not wanna have, is any type of regret. I wanna lay it all on the table and just do some, some things that might appear impossible to me, but I know God is gonna get the glory because he's gonna make it, right.
[00:56:08] Speaker C: Right. Because he's gonna make it happen. Right.
[00:56:10] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:56:11] Speaker C: And, and that's what I need to rely on, you know, cuz I'm, I'm pretty, I really try my hardest to be self sufficient. He's like, you don't need to be. Yeah, it's, calm down, you know, take it easy, girl. I've got you, you know?
Yeah. But, um, then that can be tough. It can be tough. But I'll tell you one thing that I've learned.
When you do take the time to rest.
[00:56:40] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:56:40] Speaker C: You come back so much better and you can do so much more. You do, you can't do anything on empty. A car can't go on empty.
[00:56:48] Speaker A: It can't.
[00:56:49] Speaker C: And when you try it, it's going to either break or, you know, you're not going to have a cardinal. So we try to do that with ourselves, with our humanness. And sometimes, Eric, it's just, it's not okay. We need to take the time and rest. And that's, that's hard for me. I can do it like in the morning because I've already, like, conditioned myself. But then that whole day, and when I go to bed, most of the time I'm like, spent, like.
[00:57:18] Speaker A: Yeah, that's wild. So what are, so what are some of the books that you actually read to fill your mind and to nourish your soul?
[00:57:30] Speaker C: To nourish my soul is my bible. Yeah, that's where I nourish my soul.
I'm always looking for a lot of books on foresight, so a lot of books on the blue ocean strat. I'm always looking at books that are going to pivot my mind to be more creative.
[00:57:53] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:57:54] Speaker C: And a lot of times I'll read the same book a couple of times because it's important for me to understand it, to really, like, conceptualize the concept and to be able to be better because of that. So I know I'm always reading a different book, and a lot of times I won't even finish the book and I jump on the next one. But I, for a reason, though, I'm learning something from each of them, you know?
[00:58:20] Speaker A: Right.
[00:58:20] Speaker C: And so when I, when I'm interested in a new skill or I want to know more about a skill that I have or if I want to stay like abreast to what's the latest in my field, um, I will read a lot. I'll read, and I read periodicals, journals, books, everything. Yeah. So, yeah, so, you know, innovation, in behavioral health innovation in and of itself, how can I take that concept and apply it? I do a lot of that kind of reading and books that are. But the problem is that a lot of the behavioral health innovation stuff is all technology.
And I want people to realize that it's, everything is not technology.
We have brains, and if our brains aren't working, even the technology won't work. For that technology to be what it is, it needs to be in our mind.
[00:59:17] Speaker B: Right?
[00:59:17] Speaker C: It does, because it's a piece of equipment, for crying out loud, you know? So we need to be creative thinkers. That's how we were, like, you know, again, even from, like, the very beginning, God created the earth, whether people leave it or nothing. That was a pretty creative idea. Even if you don't believe it, you know, that he did all this. Like, I don't know anybody else who's done it. You know, people that have created amazing things is because they've put their mind to it and they're, they're thinking creatively.
[00:59:51] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:59:51] Speaker C: Thomas Edison, with the light bulb, he had it wrong 2000 times, and 2001, he got it right. But he, he was like, okay, so this didn't work. There's got to be, and he'll just keep doing it. But if, what I realized is that if you have that kind of thinking, you pick it up everywhere. I gotta go anywhere. And I'm like, you know what? This would run so well if they didn't. I mean, I have to tell you, my friends and family, and they just look at me and they go, you're always on.
But this is how I think. It's because I, I've made it a lifestyle.
[01:00:30] Speaker A: That's right.
[01:00:31] Speaker C: Made creativity a lifestyle. And that's what's important. You want that to be your lifestyle. You want to be able to think creatively and be able to just make that a part of who you are. But as human beings, we were created to create.
[01:00:46] Speaker A: We were created with who you are, too, with, with the innovate, with innovation. Right. Innovative strategies to, to, you know, for behavioral health, to help other people.
[01:01:01] Speaker C: Yeah, right. But that comes from creativity. Innovation doesn't like, it doesn't come up by itself. You need to have creative thinking, critical thinking, creative thinking. You come up with an innovative idea, and then you implement it to whatever it is you're doing.
[01:01:17] Speaker A: Right?
[01:01:18] Speaker C: Do you see? See how it's a process? It has to be a thought. It starts with a thought. You know, Thomas Edison said, oh, we need light. I mean, these, these, uh, these candles aren't cutting it.
[01:01:29] Speaker B: That's right. I'm tired of burning myself at this.
[01:01:31] Speaker C: Yeah. To keep burning myself. You know, there's wax everywhere. You know, his wife probably was complaining, like, the wax on the floor again, you know, so have to come up with something. It was a thought. Yeah, I'm sure he probably drew a couple of pictures and then said, you know, I'm going to try this with this, and da da da da. And until it just became the thing. Do you see? So. But everything starts with the creative thinking, critical thinking. You look at stuff and you're like, hmm, how can that be better?
[01:01:58] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:02:02] Speaker C: Maybe we can try this. And it may not work. I always tell people, you know, when I'm working with a group or an organization, I was telling, listen, it may not work. You may have an idea and it may not work, but you can't stop. You have to keep perfecting that idea. If you really believe that that will work, you keep perfecting it until it becomes, now, I'm not saying use it in the whole, but you use it as a pilot and you keep perfecting it, perfecting until you're like, boom, I got it. This is it. This is going to be the thing. This is going to work. This is the need.
Listen to people's problems, create a solution. But if you're not thinking that way, hear all the problems in the world and you're not going to figure it out.
[01:02:44] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:02:45] Speaker C: Because you're not, you're already not conditioned to thinking that way.
[01:02:47] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:02:51] Speaker A: And what you. For whatever, what you just talked about, it just, it just made me think about our trip to Greece and, you know, just being in Athens where you see these, these huge structures that have been here since 1500 BC and how they're still standing and you're like, okay, they were able to do this way back then and it's still standing. How come people can't get it together, like, mentally right now to build an edifice. Right. Or some, some kind of structure that's going to last for thousands and thousands of years.
We have it in us. We have it in as we have it in us. But it's, you know, it's just everybody's going a whole nother direction, what money is all involved.
[01:03:35] Speaker B: That's a whole nother topic, but the whole other topic.
[01:03:38] Speaker C: That's another podcast.
[01:03:39] Speaker B: Yeah, that's another podcast.
[01:03:43] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:03:43] Speaker A: But real quick, real quick, before I let you go, you mentioned blue Ocean strategy. Can you, can you hit on that real quick?
[01:03:51] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, I love, I'm very fascinated with that. So the blue ocean strategy talks about.
There were two oceans. There's a red ocean and there's a blue ocean. The red ocean is where all of these sharks are fighting for the same client, and they're all doing things the same way, you know, innovatively. They have, like, this new technology, and everybody's using it. And so why would people go to the end of the block, to the left, right? It doesn't matter where they go. Everybody's doing the same thing, and the latest and the greatest. So that's what that. That's the red ocean. But the blue ocean, there's this little boat all by itself, and it's doing something so different that nobody sees it because everybody is trying to fight for doing things the same way.
[01:04:37] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:04:38] Speaker C: And this blue ocean is, first of all, it's a huge ocean. All the clients are yours because you're different, and you're giving them what they need and want.
And the people that have done that, oftentimes that means that you need to sometimes borrow things from another organization or not organization, another field, another industry, and tweak it and apply it to your industry. So one of the things that Kim and McGormy talk about is the in n out burger. In and out Burger was just a burger store, right? And it was a sit down restaurant. And everybody that wanted to eat food went to a restaurant. What he realized was that a lot of parents were taking kids to baseball or ballet after school. They had a little baby, and he was like, hmm, why don't we, like, do a window where they can come and take stuff and they don't have to get the kids out of the car, and they come and they grab the burger. But where did they get that idea from? They got that idea from banking. You know, banking. You would leave the money, you would put it into the deposit box, and sometimes late at night, there was a teller there that would help you, blah, blah, blah. And then you would. This is what you did. And he was like, we can apply that to this.
It was booming. His business went. But you see that? That's what I'm saying. And that's a blue ocean. He saw a need, and he said, we can apply that.
Nobody would have thought working in a restaurant, that how would a window work? It didn't even. It wasn't even a concept. So that's where creative thinking comes in.
He solved the problem that mothers didn't even know they had.
They knew.
I don't have time to cook. I'm going to go to the restaurant. You know, sit with the kids and blah, blah, blah. And all of a sudden, oh my goodness, this is amazing. This is perfect. This is exactly what I need. So you see what I'm saying? This is how we need to think. We need to think, blue ocean. We need to think, how can we do what we do in such an innovative way that we're not going to compete with anybody.
[01:07:02] Speaker A: Right.
[01:07:03] Speaker C: You're in an industry all your own. You're doing things so different. And that was what's appealing. And that was what, you know, has, you know, notoriously given me that edge that I'm always thinking of new ways of doing things that are giving clients what they need. Wow. And it's putting me in that space where I'm not doing things like everybody else.
[01:07:27] Speaker A: That's right. Going against the grain.
[01:07:29] Speaker C: Yeah, going against the grain. But creatively.
[01:07:33] Speaker B: That's right. Go again.
Being different. I love it.
[01:07:38] Speaker A: I love it.
Before I let you go, real quick, can you just share like, what success means to you at this phase of your life and just share with people where they could find you?
[01:08:00] Speaker C: Okay.
Success to me is the benefit of being able to help like hundreds of thousands of people trying to create a way that I can help so many people to be able to think creatively, to be able to heal their souls, heal their minds, and be able to apply creativity to their lives in everything that they do. I feel like that's my mission. And there you just find me. There are, I have two websites. One of them is doctornildaperez.com and the other one is behavioral health we imagined. And that's my practice. And there's a lot of information and blogs there, you know, about what I do and how I operate. So it's behavioralhealthreimagined.com and my phone number is 561-914-8424.
[01:09:11] Speaker B: Don'T hesitate to contact doctor nelta Perez job.
What a great story. Oh my goodness. We.
[01:09:20] Speaker A: That was good.
[01:09:20] Speaker B: That was good. That was good.
That was good. I appreciate that one.
[01:09:26] Speaker A: You dropped so many nuggets.
[01:09:29] Speaker C: That's, that's a very long interview.
[01:09:32] Speaker A: Listen, I want to thank doctor Nelda Perez for being on the show. I know you all were blessed. I know I was. Man, we talked about so much just from being able to, you know, thrive in a community, being creative, find solutions.
Oh, I mean, I just have a couple questions for you. So how are you going to distinguish yourself from the competition for those business owners? And what methods are you going? I guess methods, methods and techniques.
[01:10:04] Speaker B: Well, I'm just getting excited methods and.
[01:10:06] Speaker A: Techniques are of are you going to apply for your overall life to actually help you operate at a higher level?
I know we have to be innovative. We have to be creative, find a community to thrive in and identify some solutions not only for your endeavors, but for you personally. Your life depends on it. Now, I definitely want to thank you all for watching this video. I'm excited about your growth and transformation quests to become the person that God has created you to be. Now, hit that newsletter subscription button to get updated content and resources that will assist you in your growth and subscribe to this channel. I'll see you in the next video. And remember, we cannot become what we need if we remain where we are. Y'all have a blessed week. Dee wells I'm out. Why not.
