[00:00:00] Speaker A: Hey, this is your host, Dewell.
[00:00:01] Speaker B: So why not you? And I'm excited about this episode.
But before we get into it, I just have a question for you. When was the last time you've actually talked with someone in their early, early twenties who knew exactly what they wanted and the path to take to get there? In this episode, I am joined by Chloe Bullough, who is that person who has a plan, a timeline to accomplish her goal and the mindset to make it happen. Now, Chloe is making her mark, following her dream, doing what she loves. And she said, never underestimate the empowering effect of human connection. All you need is that one person who understands you, completely believes in you, and makes you feel love for who you are. That enables you to unfold the miraculous. Now, let's get into this episode so y'all can meet Chloe.
[00:00:54] Speaker A: Let's go.
[00:00:55] Speaker C: Welcome to another episode of why not you? With your host, Derek Wells, where we talk with leaders and entrepreneurs who are doing what they love to do. They'll share insights into overcoming adversity, the systems they use, along with the power of personal growth, faith, and much more. Our goal is to empower you with personal growth, faith, and a plan for all ultimate success. Now here's Derek with another life changing story.
[00:01:26] Speaker D: So, ladies and gentlemen, this is your.
[00:01:29] Speaker A: Host, d. Wells, with why not you and I have a special guest today, Miss Chloe Bullo out of Utah. And man, what honors. You know, she's a freelance photographer, and she studied in mortuary science and working as an assistant funeral director, funeral manager, and is also a premed student.
That's a lot going on.
[00:01:55] Speaker E: Oh, yeah. Lots on my plate.
[00:01:58] Speaker A: So, like, before we actually get started, I just want to come. I just want to share this quote and just kind of let me know how it resonates with you. Because I remember, you know, when we were talking or just kind of chatting, you mentioned that you have a special place in your heart just for helping people. And so just let me know what you think of this, this quote.
Never underestimate the empowering effect of human connection. All you need is that one person who understands you, completely believes in you and makes you feel love for what you are to enable you to unfold the miraculous.
[00:02:32] Speaker F: You.
[00:02:34] Speaker B: Drishti Bablani.
[00:02:37] Speaker E: There's really nothing more empowering than the support of the people you love, the people you care about. You know, in my darkest times, the thing that got me through it was the support of my family, the support of my friends. And all I want to do is be able to give that same amount of support and kindness to everybody that I help out, because you don't know how much somebody is struggling, especially in my job. You'll come across, you know, tons of people who will come in and they seem just fine, but the minute you leave the room, you can hear them crying and, you know, it's. It's hard to be human. It's hard to be able to express your emotions openly and freely.
I think if everybody, you know, just took the time out of their day to be kinder and, you know, smile at a stranger on the street, it would. I think it would improve the world immensely.
[00:03:34] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:03:35] Speaker A: I know you talked about how your parents helped you, you know, transition and navigate the time when you were going.
[00:03:41] Speaker B: Through that dark place.
[00:03:43] Speaker A: Can you elaborate on that a little bit and just kind of, you know.
[00:03:47] Speaker B: Walk us through the process of what.
[00:03:48] Speaker A: Was going on and definitely interested in hearing about what took you down that path to go to mortician school.
[00:03:57] Speaker E: Well, I. I had an amazing childhood. I have two parents who have always been super supportive, super, you know, just inspiring in so many ways. And, you know, they've always had my back, no matter what it was. In high school, I loved doing, you know, we had a school news program. I loved doing all the tv broadcasting stuff. And, you know, when I first told them I wanted to go to school to be a mortician, they, you know, they were kind of taken aback by it because they were like, are you sure you can handle that? Because, I mean, I'm a. I'm a very emotional person.
[00:04:31] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:04:31] Speaker E: So my mom was concerned that it would, like, hurt, you know, be hard on my emotions.
I think that's what makes me good for this, because, you know, I understand my emotions, and I think that makes it easier for me to understand the emotions of others.
[00:04:47] Speaker F: Right.
[00:04:48] Speaker E: But, you know, in order to be as helpful as I can be today, I went through a very dark time in high school. I lost three of my best friends to suicide, and that was just.
It was world crushing. It was, like, months apart in time. And, you know, I just felt like I kept losing people, and I felt like I couldn't do anything to, you know, stop that. And, you know, it pushed me to this point where I wasn't able to graduate high school. I wasn't able to get my driver's license because I was just in such a dark place. And I don't think I would have been able to get out of that place without the support of my dad or my mom, because those two, they, you know, they always just push me to do better. And even when I want to do better, you know, they kind of forced me out of this dark hole, and I can't. I can't appreciate them enough for that.
I strive to be able to do the same thing my parents did for me, for everyone. You know, I surround myself with.
[00:06:01] Speaker F: Mm hmm.
[00:06:02] Speaker A: And so when you think about that, just with, you know, having. Having your parents just be a part of your life actively and. And help you get through a tough time and.
[00:06:12] Speaker D: And push you even though you probably weren't really ready.
[00:06:17] Speaker A: I mean, how hard was that? Because I know sometimes it's, you know, it's kind of like, you know, some people say, like, tough love or, you know, they might say something about tough love or.
And I know that, you know, just being a parent, sometimes you just, you hate seeing your kids or just anybody that you have some type of connection with. You hate to see them struggle.
[00:06:41] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:06:41] Speaker A: Just how important is that to be able to receive it? Because sometimes it's hard for you just to receive information also.
[00:06:50] Speaker F: Right.
[00:06:53] Speaker E: Well, and I think there's definitely, you know, a time and place for tough love. There's situations where tough love might not be the best fit for something, but for me, you know, at that time, I was just like, no, I'm not doing it. You can't make me. You know, I really just wanted to curl up into a ball and, you know, just be in my room all day. But, you know, if my parents wouldn't have dragged me out and, you know, just had conversations with me about, you know, you've got to come up with something you're going to do with your life. You can't let yourself dwell on this any longer. And, you know, that doesn't mean don't, you know, feel things, don't, you know, let yourself cry every now and then, but you can't lose yourself to circumstances that are beyond your control right now.
I came to realize that because it was just something I couldn't have done anything for. I was always there for my friends. But you just, sometimes people are just really, really down and, you know, you try and try to do your best to be supportive and. But you can't blame yourself if something does happen, right? As long as you know that you tried your best and you were always there for them. And so that kind of helped me move past my grief because, I mean, grief has just been huge factor in my life and a huge factor as to why, you know, I try to do better because I want to make my friends that I lost proud. You know, I want to be able to, you know, do the things that they would want me to be doing.
[00:08:38] Speaker A: I know just what you're talking about. Just this whole issue or topic with. Especially, like, when it comes to, like, mental health, right. You just never know where somebody is.
But it just. It just made me think of some co workers of mine and friends of mine who actually lost somebody to suicide. And they were literally praying with them the day.
And then all of a sudden they end up taking their own life. And, you know, for, when you think about it, sometimes that could be hard on you because all of a sudden you could. You could start blaming yourself for something like you just said that you have.
[00:09:23] Speaker B: No control over whatsoever.
[00:09:26] Speaker A: And then you've wondered, like, man, what kind of clues was it? Did they say anything or did I miss something?
[00:09:33] Speaker E: Yeah, well, the night, you know, the first night it happened, I just sat and dwelled on it. I just kept thinking, I'm a terrible friend. I didn't see this coming. I was with. I was with him yesterday.
No, but, you know, it's.
It's really hard to not let grief take control of your life. And there's nothing more relieving, nothing. You know, there's not a bigger weight lifted off your back than being able to let go of it, you know? And I think it's important to still hold on to those experiences because I think they make us better people.
[00:10:15] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:10:16] Speaker E: But, you know, don't let the negative things control you.
[00:10:20] Speaker A: That's absolutely. That's tough.
And I know that you are here for a reason.
[00:10:26] Speaker D: Right. And you've been able to get through it, and now you're moving on and.
[00:10:30] Speaker A: You'Re doing something completely.
[00:10:34] Speaker D: And I really different.
[00:10:36] Speaker E: I think my purpose in this world is to be able to help people who are going through something similar to what I went through.
[00:10:44] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:10:45] Speaker E: Because, you know, I.
Even though I didn't really express it, I needed all the support I could get during those times, even though I tried to shut people out. Sometimes all you need is somebody to be really annoying and in your face all the time to try to pitch you out of bed.
So even though I didn't appreciate it at the time, I am so grateful for it now.
[00:11:08] Speaker F: That's good. That's good.
[00:11:11] Speaker A: And now that you've been able to navigate your life and get through it, how did you actually become fascinated with.
[00:11:21] Speaker D: Just the human body which led you to go through.
[00:11:25] Speaker A: To go. To take these mortuary classes and get into premeditation?
[00:11:30] Speaker E: Well, that's the dreaded question. That's the one everybody always asks, and you always have to rack your mind for an answer. I mean, really, it's kind of always been there. I was really, really fascinated with the human body, with anatomy from a very young age. I think a lot of it was the fact that my parents provided me with lots of just really informational, educational books when I was little. And my favorite series, they were these eyewitness books. I don't know if you've seen them, but they. They cover a huge range of topics. They have, like, a medicine one. They have one on spies. They have one on, like, ancient mummies. Those were always just my favorite growing up. And, you know, in high school, the classes I actually enjoyed being in were my anatomy class or my health class, my science classes. So I've just always been kind of drawn to that, and I've always been drawn to helping others. So they kind of go hand in hand when I'm, you know, in this industry, the funeral industry, and the pre med schooling that is sort of associated with my mortuary schooling. So when I go through the funeral science program, my associate's degree will be in health science.
[00:12:56] Speaker F: Okay?
[00:12:56] Speaker E: So I will have this degree that's focused in funeral science. But if I decided I wanted to further my studies and go into, you know, surgery, you know, any of those.
[00:13:09] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:13:10] Speaker E: Fields, I could do that with this degree, so.
[00:13:12] Speaker A: Oh, nice.
[00:13:13] Speaker E: Yeah. So it's a step in a great direction, but I don't know if I'll ever want to stop doing the funeral industry. I I really love what I do.
[00:13:23] Speaker A: So do you think, like, somewhere down the road, where do you think you would actually own, like, your own mortuary?
[00:13:30] Speaker E: Oh, absolutely.
[00:13:31] Speaker D: You already know it, huh?
[00:13:32] Speaker E: That's the goal. Yeah.
I used to work in a mortuary that, you know, was in my town, and it was a great experience. I really, really enjoyed it, but there just wasn't quite enough for me to do for the training I needed in school, so I had to move on. And now I'm working for a corporate funeral home, which is crazy. You know, I'm getting all the experience I can get.
[00:13:56] Speaker F: Right.
[00:13:57] Speaker E: You know, it's. It's been great. I've really, really enjoyed helping these families. How many more important.
[00:14:08] Speaker A: How many other women, I mean, statistically, that are actually that I guess they're funeral directors or have, like, their own mortuary, do you know?
[00:14:19] Speaker E: So it's been a huge shift in past ten years. It used to be a male dominated field, and now it's, I think I read that it's 70% female now.
[00:14:30] Speaker F: Wow.
[00:14:31] Speaker E: Yeah. There's just been a huge increase of women in the funeral business, and I don't know if that's just because it's become more common for women to be, you know, in the office and all of that, but it's. It's really, really interesting because, you know, it's sometimes some of the older funeral directors, they're, you know, they're these older guys, and they're always shocked to see, you know, young women in the field.
[00:15:00] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:15:01] Speaker E: But, you know, they warm up to it. They might second guess you a little bit at first, but, you know, you just. You got to prove them wrong and show them that you're capable of just as much as they are.
[00:15:11] Speaker F: That's right.
[00:15:12] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:15:14] Speaker F: So I'm.
[00:15:15] Speaker A: Because I can only imagine it's not.
Not only are you dealing with, like, the, you know, just a human side of, like, the human anatomy, and.
But then you have that whole.
[00:15:25] Speaker F: That.
[00:15:25] Speaker A: That nurturing piece also, where you have to.
You have to work with the families. You have to provide service for them.
[00:15:34] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:15:35] Speaker A: So just so much that that actually.
That encompasses just that position alone, I think, that not too many people think about. Because not everybody's gifted in that area.
[00:15:48] Speaker F: Right.
[00:15:48] Speaker A: To do a job like that.
[00:15:50] Speaker E: Yeah. And that's really the most important thing of being successful in this field, is, you know, just being able to give families your all, you know, you've got to devote, you know, all your time and all your resources into making sure that they get the closure and, you know, the memorial service they deserve.
[00:16:09] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:16:11] Speaker A: And so I would suppose your parents had a lot to do with this.
[00:16:14] Speaker D: Just by giving you those books?
[00:16:17] Speaker E: Oh, absolutely.
Be interested in it either way.
[00:16:21] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:16:22] Speaker A: So have you already, like, kind of drafted out, like, I would say, a vision for your life?
[00:16:27] Speaker E: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tenure plan. I want to be owning my own funeral home by then. That's the goal when I'm 30, hopefully sooner than that. But by then, I'm hoping and, you know, in the next two years, I'm planning to be. Graduated from my technical college, like, in Salt Lake City. And, you know, my. My biggest goal is just to, you know, become stronger, become more emotionally intelligent, just grow as a person as much as I can. Every single year, I try to be a better person than I was the year before.
[00:17:09] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:17:10] Speaker A: So what are some of the things, like, just on a daily basis that you do or apply, you know, just to invest in yourself in and work on character building?
[00:17:20] Speaker E: Well, my favorite thing to do right now, is I love playing bass. That's like, my. My breakaway from everything, you know, it keeps my brain, you know, at.
At a happy level.
It. Because in the industry I work in, it's easy to become really emotionally involved in things. And sometimes it's hard, you know, you have hard days, but being able to have, you know, hobbies, I love photography. I love music. Those are the things that, you know, help me keep my composure when things are hard.
And, you know, every day, I just, you know, I give myself the affirmations in the morning. I tell myself, you can do this.
[00:18:03] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:18:04] Speaker E: You know, you can meet with all of these families. You can.
You know, you can go run all of these errands. You can go to the post office.
[00:18:14] Speaker F: Right.
[00:18:15] Speaker E: Even just the little tiny things in life can be hard sometimes. Or just leaving the house isn't always the easiest.
[00:18:22] Speaker F: I know, right.
[00:18:23] Speaker E: But having that confidence in yourself that you can do it.
[00:18:28] Speaker F: Right.
[00:18:29] Speaker E: I've learned that every single thing I've been nervous for has ended up being life changing for me. Really, everything that's scary has ended up working out for the better for me.
[00:18:44] Speaker A: So that's. That's interesting because I. I was recently reading the book, and it was talking about fears. And if the fear that you actually have, is it justified?
And if it isn't, was really like allowing this fear to manifest.
So sometimes you really have to dig deep and find out, you know, what it is that's really bothering you or preventing you from moving forward to accomplishing whatever it is that you want to do.
[00:19:13] Speaker E: Well, if a new step in your life, I mean, if it doesn't scare you, it's probably not as important or great as you think it's going to be. All the I have to psych myself up to do going into this industry at first was terrifying. It's like, what if I say the wrong thing to these families? You know, what if I mess everything up? But not once have I ever had an issue with that. Not once have I ever failed as bad as I ever think I will.
Just that reminder kind of helps me get over my fears of things, no matter how small they are. I've gotten through all of the hard days. Who's to say I can get through this one?
[00:19:57] Speaker F: That's right.
[00:19:59] Speaker D: That's absolutely true.
[00:20:01] Speaker A: Now, have you heard that, that term, foxhole?
[00:20:05] Speaker E: Yes. Yeah.
[00:20:05] Speaker D: Okay, so when you think about that, I remember hearing.
[00:20:11] Speaker A: Are you familiar with that? David Goggins?
[00:20:13] Speaker E: I don't think so.
[00:20:14] Speaker A: Okay, so he was, you know, military guy, Navy SeAL, and he talked about the foxhole. And he referenced it in an interview that he had. And so he was talking about, you know, just that foxhole having like minded people in there with him because they're going to have his back and he's going to have their back. So having somebody with that same mentality.
And so just thinking about that, like, when you think about what it is that you're doing, who are some of the people that you can actually rely on as far as, you know, whether it's, you know, holding you accountable, some inspiration, pushing you beyond your, your own self limiting beliefs?
[00:20:54] Speaker D: Right.
Who have your back? Do you have those kind of people in your circle?
[00:20:59] Speaker E: Absolutely. Well, my parents, you know, I've already talked about this, but they have just been my biggest supporters. They always, you know, put their faith in me and push me to things that sometimes I don't want to do right. And also at this, you know, at the, the funeral home, the atmosphere is just incredible. I've got so many incredible, you know, managers, bosses who every single day they, you know, they praise me when I'm doing my best, and they, they criticize me when I need it, you know, when not, you know, going above and beyond. And that really is what pushes me to do better every day because nobody wants to hear, that's good, but you could be doing better, you know, always want to be, you know, improving, doing your best no matter what it is.
I really appreciate, you know, my bosses and, you know, all the people who've trained me at my job because they really do have my back, you know, and there's nothing I appreciate more than that.
[00:22:08] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:22:09] Speaker A: Now, when it comes to, like, constructive criticism, are you the kind of person.
[00:22:13] Speaker F: That.
[00:22:16] Speaker D: Are you the kind of person.
[00:22:17] Speaker A: That gets, like, emotional, or do you just kind of take it on the chin or does it really depend on who's actually given the constructive criticism?
[00:22:28] Speaker E: I think I used to be, I used to take it to heart more.
I mean, especially with my dad, you know, when I was a teenager and he'd give me, you know, his criticism, his advice, I'd be like, you're my dad. I'm not listening to you. That's always right. That's something I'm going to learn is my dad is always right. So when my dad gives me criticism, I'm like, you know what? He's right. Yeah, I said I should listen to what he has to say. And, you know, I think criticism can be a very important part of, you know, building your own self esteem, making yourself a better person. But sometimes it's unnecessary. I think there's a time and place for it. And I mean, the majority of the time, constructive criticism has been great for me.
[00:23:17] Speaker F: Right.
[00:23:18] Speaker E: Learned. You know, people are just looking out for my best interest now, if they're just hating on me for no reason, that's, that's not right. Beneficial to me at all and I'll stand up myself. But edge, rare that that ever happens.
[00:23:37] Speaker A: Because I noticed, I mean, it just kind of segues into what I was going to ask you next because I know there's, you know, there's always a haters, right. And sometimes this people are just cruel and so.
[00:23:50] Speaker F: Right.
[00:23:50] Speaker A: And so when you, when you hear somebody like, just kind of talking trash or just saying something that's not true, what are some of the ways that you actually just kind of disregard them and you just kind of focus on what it is that you're doing?
[00:24:04] Speaker E: Well, you know, it's easy to get down on yourself from the words of others, but I think something that is really important to take into account is you don't know what other people are going through. You know, they are hating on you because there's something that they see in you that they don't see in themselves. You know, there's really no other reason why somebody would try to hurt your feelings when you're just doing your best, you know, when you're not doing it wrong and, you know, somebody's trying to bring you down, it's them problem. It's not your fault.
It's just something they need to work on themselves.
[00:24:46] Speaker F: Right.
[00:24:47] Speaker E: Sometimes it's easier said than done, you know?
[00:24:49] Speaker F: Right.
[00:24:50] Speaker E: Easy to be like, oh, they're just, they're just jealous of me or whatever, but, you know, sometimes it really hurts.
[00:24:58] Speaker A: Yeah, it does.
And sometimes, you know, a lot of people do, they, they just kind of project what they're feeling on the inside, on other people because they might be struggling internally or whatever it is.
That's just how people end up, you know, just kind of, it's almost like a cry for help sometimes because critics.
[00:25:20] Speaker D: Critics criticize and the reason why they do is because they have time to do it. And so instead of working on themselves, that's what they need to be.
[00:25:28] Speaker E: Well, my favorite thing, when, you know, if somebody replies with, like, a nasty comment to something I said or something.
[00:25:35] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:25:36] Speaker E: Nice to them, you know, kill them with kindness because, I mean, there's nothing better than, like, when somebody's just really nasty to you.
[00:25:45] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:25:47] Speaker E: You, you know, you give them a compliment, you tell them, oh, I'm sorry you feel that way. You know, just be nice to them and they'll do like a full 180.
[00:25:58] Speaker D: That's true.
[00:25:59] Speaker A: And so how important is, like, faith to you, just having faith.
[00:26:06] Speaker F: Whether it's.
[00:26:06] Speaker A: In God or just faith in faith in yourself?
[00:26:10] Speaker E: Faith has been a big part of my life. I mean, every. Every single time I run into an obstacle, the first thing I do is pray.
[00:26:19] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:26:20] Speaker E: And I mean, I've never belonged to a specific organized religion, but I would consider myself a Christian because, you know, in every single problem I've ever had, there's nothing more calming for me than being able to say a prayer really quick.
[00:26:36] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:26:37] Speaker E: It takes such a big weight off of your shoulders and just knowing that there's something there, someone that has my back all the time.
[00:26:47] Speaker F: Right.
[00:26:48] Speaker E: It's always going to be okay, no matter how hard it is.
[00:26:51] Speaker A: He's got me, and that's true. Even if you can't, like, feel or see. Right, right. But, um, I just never forget, like, when, um. Oh, wow.
My old pastor, he actually used an analogy of just the wind, because we can't see the wind, but we could feel it. And sometimes that's just how it is. When you might be going through just a moment or some kind of crisis or something like that, you just really need that reassurance. Right. And all of a sudden you start praying or you start reading the scripture or passage, whatever, and then all of a sudden you just kind of, ah.
[00:27:37] Speaker D: You feel so much better.
[00:27:38] Speaker F: Right.
[00:27:40] Speaker E: Just the biggest relief.
[00:27:41] Speaker D: Right, right.
[00:27:43] Speaker A: So what are some of the things? I mean, as far as. Because I know you're studying right now, just with school and stuff, are there any kind of personal development books that you might read just to work on yourself and give you some. Some extra tools, whether it's habits, systems, or just things to implement? Because I heard you. I heard you mentioned affirmations earlier, so.
[00:28:07] Speaker E: Well, I unfortunately, have not been a huge reader with just my schedule and how things are.
[00:28:14] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:28:14] Speaker E: But, um, you know, the Bible is always a go to. I don't read it as much as I wish I could.
[00:28:22] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:28:23] Speaker E: You know, it's the huge just guiding force in my life when everything feels like it's wrong.
[00:28:29] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:28:30] Speaker E: You just. Just knowing that I've got that right.
[00:28:35] Speaker F: Just.
[00:28:36] Speaker E: It's like a deep breath in, deep breath out. You're good, you know?
[00:28:41] Speaker F: Yep.
[00:28:42] Speaker A: Now, do you listen to, like, any audiobooks or anything like that?
[00:28:46] Speaker E: Yeah, actually, I read just a lot of poetry. A lot of, you know, things that are easy for my brain, but you know, reading is something I wish I had more time for because it used to be such a big part of my life, and I really need to find some way to work it into my schedule, even if it's just like, you know, I have it in my airpod at work or something. Yeah, it would. It would definitely be beneficial to me.
[00:29:19] Speaker A: And, look, I get it because I know, like, when I was going through, uh, one of my master's program, it's like I didn't have time to do nothing else.
[00:29:28] Speaker E: You're even on time with sleep.
[00:29:32] Speaker D: So any kind of.
[00:29:33] Speaker A: Any kind of free time you do have, it's like, let me just decompress. Let me listen to some music or something, you know?
[00:29:39] Speaker E: So, yeah, you lay here.
I do feel, though, when I use that downtime to, you know, do something besides just lay in my bed and watch a show or something, I feel better.
It is good to just have downtime where you can decompress, but not every night.
[00:29:59] Speaker A: I know it's not. Otherwise, you'd be creating some kind of other bad habit.
If there was one thing that you could do, and you could, and you wouldn't fail at it, what would you do?
[00:30:10] Speaker E: Oh, man, that's a hard one. I mean, really, just be kind to everyone, you know, even the people who are negative or mean. You know, I. If I could just change the world and make everybody, you know, get along, treat each other so poorly, you know, that that would be, you know, everything for me, because I think we're too hard on each other and we're too hard on ourselves.
And I don't think enough people realize that the pain that we feel, you know, inside our heads can cause pain in other people, you know?
And I think, you know, considering the feelings of others, if everybody did that, the world would be so much happier.
[00:31:05] Speaker F: I know, right?
[00:31:07] Speaker A: So would you say. Would you say your gift is, like, just loving people, loving people and making them feel comfortable?
[00:31:17] Speaker E: I. You know, I have so much love in my heart, and, you know, it. I want to give it to everyone I can. And, you know, sometimes there's people who don't always deserve it, but, you know, it's. I just want to take care of everybody, you know, and maybe smiling at a stranger, maybe that's the only kindness they'll get all day, you know, maybe that's the thing that, you know, brings them out of a dark place. You really never know what's going on in somebody's head. And I think it's safer to be kind to everybody than just brush it off.
[00:31:56] Speaker A: That's true.
Now, do you think you are, like, like one day, you know, write a book or maybe some poetry?
[00:32:05] Speaker E: Oh, I would love.
I. Every now and then, you know, I keep a journal. I try to document, you know, everything I've learned in my schooling and in my career. And I think some of that might be beneficial for somebody, somebody else to read one day, you know, somebody else who is, you know, a younger person starting a field that is mostly dominated by people who are older.
[00:32:35] Speaker F: Right.
[00:32:37] Speaker E: And it's scary. It's scary being, you know, the youngest one at your workplace because everybody else seems so much more experienced than you. You know, you second guess yourself a lot. But, I mean, the beauty of it all is you're learning, you know, at a super young age, and you're just becoming the best you can as soon as you can. And that's something I've come to realize is, you know, when I first started, it was like I was a fish out of water. But, you know, as the months have gone on, it just feels right. You know, I, you know, I think my younger self would be really proud of where I am today, and that's what keeps me going.
[00:33:23] Speaker A: The fact that you just said that you said your younger self now. Have you ever thought about writing a.
Writing a letter as if you were your future self telling your younger self now?
[00:33:35] Speaker E: Oh, I have.
[00:33:36] Speaker D: You have?
[00:33:39] Speaker E: Oh, I have actually written myself so many letters. There's this website, I can't remember what it's called, that you can write yourself a letter to your future self from right now. And so every few years, I'll get one in my email, and I'm like, oh, I forgot I did that. And, you know, I'll read what I was going through at that time, and I'm like, wow. Like, I never would have thought I'd be here. I never, you know, I never thought I'd make anything out of my life. You know, during my dark times, it was like I couldn't see a future for myself and knowing that I've created that future, you know, and this is only the beginning, and I'm so excited to see where everything takes me, and I'm so proud of where I am.
[00:34:26] Speaker F: Yeah, absolutely.
[00:34:27] Speaker A: That's awesome, because how many people have those, like, just the ideas or, you know, dreams and they just allow that? I don't know, whether it's fear or their current circumstance just kind of dictate, you know, their next move, and so they just remain idle or they just lose sight of, you know, what it is that they really want to do, and they get talked out of it. I mean, it's. It's sad because they were created for more, but for whatever reason, they just didn't have enough courage or, or strength just to kind of, you know, think, think on a positive, on a positive note. And so they're just, oh, man, they just end up staying bounded up to whatever shackles, and it's like they're living in bondage.
[00:35:15] Speaker E: Well, and I don't. I mean, there are some people, you know, who are kind of in that place forever, but I think it's really rare that you get stuck like that. I think there comes a point where you're just like, I'm tired of this. You know, I can't, you know, I can't just sit and do nothing forever because, I mean, I worked in a cookie shop for, like, three years, and. And it was fun. I loved the people I worked with, but I was like, I'm not living up to what I want to be doing right now, you know? And so, you know, just kind of being tired of where I was that really did push me to do more.
And it's not that working in a cookie shop is a terrible thing to do forever. It was awesome, but it's just not my dream, you know?
[00:36:02] Speaker A: Now, is there anybody or specific person that you're actually looking up to and kind of using their blueprint or their life success as kind of like a blueprint for you?
[00:36:14] Speaker E: So my boss, her name is Rhianne. She is. I think she's 24 years old, and she is the manager of the funeral home I work at. And, you know, she was in my shoes not too long ago, right? Seeing her, you know, build this career for herself. You know, she's running the whole place. I think that's so awesome. And, you know, having a strong female role model like that who, you know, has proven that hard work really does pay off, that that inspires me so much. And I'm really grateful that I have her guidance because she's just been a great inspiration for me.
[00:36:52] Speaker F: That's sweet.
[00:36:53] Speaker A: And plus, she's. I mean, she's only a few years older than you, so it's like you guys can really resonating.
[00:36:59] Speaker E: It's just kind of click.
I mean, that kind of made me realize that it's okay that I'm younger, you know, it's okay that I'm learning still because, I mean, she was in the same position as me, and she's got it down, right. So, you know, just following, you know, under what she has taught me, I. I learned so much just every single day I'm there. And that's another thing I love about this career.
[00:37:26] Speaker F: Yeah. Wow.
So at this.
[00:37:29] Speaker A: At this early phase in your life.
[00:37:33] Speaker D: Because you got so much more for.
[00:37:35] Speaker A: So many more years.
[00:37:37] Speaker F: Right.
[00:37:37] Speaker A: To live. But, you know, just at this current phase right now, how would you.
How would you define success?
[00:37:46] Speaker E: I would define success as, you know, just going after what you want, you know, whether that's, you know, having a family, whether that's, you know, getting the job you want, whether that's going to school, you know, it could be anything but just solidifying the thing that, you know, you've always wanted to go after. Yeah, that's. That's been the most incredible thing for me because, I mean, I can't believe that, you know, I got out of the dark phase I was in and was able to, you know, create a life for myself that I'm happy and comfortable with. It's night and day difference.
[00:38:30] Speaker F: Yeah. Wow.
[00:38:33] Speaker D: Now, before I let you go, you.
[00:38:35] Speaker A: Know, since the podcast is really about, you know, helping other people, you know, take the chance, take the risk, bet on themselves with the ideas and dreams and talents that they have, sharing their gifts with the world, what can you, like, just share with the people who are just kind of stuck or struggling with, you know, just with identifying something that's close to their heart and taking action on it.
[00:39:04] Speaker E: If you're scared of it, do it. You know, there's nothing more rewarding than overcoming that fear. You know, every. Every single challenge I've been through, every single obstacle, overcoming that obstacle has been more rewarding than if I were to let that consume me. So if there's, you know, something you want to do but you're unsure, you don't know what the best step is, just go for it, you know, do whatever feels right, and you know it. Maybe it won't work, but you've just got to get up after every single fall. You can't just give up on the things you want.
[00:39:42] Speaker F: That's good right there.
Thank you.
[00:39:46] Speaker A: I appreciate that.
[00:39:48] Speaker F: Yeah. Yes.
[00:39:50] Speaker A: Miss Chloe. Miss Chloe.
[00:39:54] Speaker E: I'm proud you can say my name.
[00:39:58] Speaker A: I want to thank Chloe for coming on. Why not you?
[00:40:03] Speaker B: She is absolutely doing it, y'all.
[00:40:05] Speaker A: She is. I don't think Chloe.
[00:40:08] Speaker B: Chloe's not even 21 yet. Or she might be 21, but she's definitely on the right track. And she has a plan, she has a vision for her life. And we went into personal growth, you know, over overcoming grief, the various paths.
[00:40:22] Speaker A: To success and she just shared her.
[00:40:24] Speaker B: Journey and the empowering lessons learned just along the way.
And I felt like she just dropped so many nuggets and brought wisdom and insight that provoked a lot of thought. And I was impressed by her, I mean, just her thought process as a young adult. Thank you, Chloe, for coming on.
[00:40:41] Speaker A: Why not you?
[00:40:42] Speaker B: In the meantime, you all have a blessed week. And remember, we cannot become what we need if we remain where we are. God bless.
[00:40:50] Speaker C: Thank you for listening to this episode of why not you remember, have faith and believe in yourself. God does. Also subscribe to our channel and go to our website for more free content and life changing
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